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		<title>By: Jorgen</title>
		<link>http://www.gustible.com/2009/10/02/buying-my-way-out-of-a-democracy/comment-page-1#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of anarchism... You may want to read the Rights of Man (by Thomas Paine) when you got some time. There are many things governments do &#039;on behalf of the people&#039; which &#039;the people&#039; frown upon  but can do nothing about.

A local example would be the Scorpions task force: fighting white collar crime means improving systems enabling the government to become more efficient at tax evasion/collection. But when this accidentally brings things to light that goes against the agenda of those that are profiting in background, the task force suddenly gets dissolved. Even if the entire country votes they should stay (which I&#039;m almost sure everyone would have if they had the opportunity), the unit still got dissolved. What does that tell us about those that run the country. Now we have a new task force, collared like a dog perhaps, but not as effective as they could be, reporting to and under the supervision of, those they may one day have to investigate. 

I&#039;d prefer if our government, officials and systems, could be audited on a 3 or 4 year basis, so we can actually *see* how much of our taxes actually go to infrastructure, etc. Two or three auditing firms reporting  back should eliminate or highlight discrepancies and problem area&#039;s. Hiking in northern Thailand I met a guy from New Zealand and we started discussing (of all things) Democracy. He tells me that in their country the winning party has to deliver on 3 out of 5 of its promises during each election period. If it doesn&#039;t, it has to explain on live TV why it failed to deliver. Now that would be a step forward, even if just to see the representative skwirm while being asked difficult questions.


At Rick Tonoli - I especially like this quote:
 â€œOur government teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.â€ - American  Supreme Court Justice - Louis Brandeis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of anarchism&#8230; You may want to read the Rights of Man (by Thomas Paine) when you got some time. There are many things governments do &#8216;on behalf of the people&#8217; which &#8216;the people&#8217; frown upon  but can do nothing about.</p>
<p>A local example would be the Scorpions task force: fighting white collar crime means improving systems enabling the government to become more efficient at tax evasion/collection. But when this accidentally brings things to light that goes against the agenda of those that are profiting in background, the task force suddenly gets dissolved. Even if the entire country votes they should stay (which I&#8217;m almost sure everyone would have if they had the opportunity), the unit still got dissolved. What does that tell us about those that run the country. Now we have a new task force, collared like a dog perhaps, but not as effective as they could be, reporting to and under the supervision of, those they may one day have to investigate. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d prefer if our government, officials and systems, could be audited on a 3 or 4 year basis, so we can actually *see* how much of our taxes actually go to infrastructure, etc. Two or three auditing firms reporting  back should eliminate or highlight discrepancies and problem area&#8217;s. Hiking in northern Thailand I met a guy from New Zealand and we started discussing (of all things) Democracy. He tells me that in their country the winning party has to deliver on 3 out of 5 of its promises during each election period. If it doesn&#8217;t, it has to explain on live TV why it failed to deliver. Now that would be a step forward, even if just to see the representative skwirm while being asked difficult questions.</p>
<p>At Rick Tonoli &#8211; I especially like this quote:<br />
 â€œOur government teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.â€ &#8211; American  Supreme Court Justice &#8211; Louis Brandeis</p>
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		<title>By: JvN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JvN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rick - but that sweet smell is very tempting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rick &#8211; but that sweet smell is very tempting.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Tonoli</title>
		<link>http://www.gustible.com/2009/10/02/buying-my-way-out-of-a-democracy/comment-page-1#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Tonoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... however your option sounds more plausible ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; however your option sounds more plausible <img src='http://www.gustible.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rick Tonoli</title>
		<link>http://www.gustible.com/2009/10/02/buying-my-way-out-of-a-democracy/comment-page-1#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Tonoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting thought, how about we choose NO government? I look forward to a (hopeful) future where the need for government becomes obsolete and people shake off their childhood indoctrination to have an authority figure rule them with fear and intimidation and reject politicians for the crazy-fear-mongering-control-freak thieves that they are. 

Ah, the sweet smell of Anarchy in the morning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting thought, how about we choose NO government? I look forward to a (hopeful) future where the need for government becomes obsolete and people shake off their childhood indoctrination to have an authority figure rule them with fear and intimidation and reject politicians for the crazy-fear-mongering-control-freak thieves that they are. </p>
<p>Ah, the sweet smell of Anarchy in the morning&#8230;</p>
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